. >> catherine, did the romney campaign think they could run this campaign without producing any specifics? i mean, what is that kind of strategy? >> i think so because in a specific one on one conversation several times, romney and ryan have said we don't want to offer anything that the democrats can then attack. well, you attack something, to ferret out problems, to understand what the ramifications are of action. so we're saying, we're not going to let you know things because the consequences could be devastating for an awful lot of people we hope will turn out and vote for us. i think they've signaled that. just like when ann romney said you've gotten all of the tax returns you're going to get because we don't want to be attacked. they don't want a broad discussion of the policies and issues that they intend to follow. >> but jared, you can't have people rally around things that they don't know who they are rallying around and i noted that the president has been trailing governor romney on the economy but now he has a slight edge for the first time. prior to the dnc romney led 51 to 45